# Ever wonder what your ape index is? Find out with our ape index calculator!

## Ape Index Calculator

## What Is the Ape Index?

**The ape index is a measurement of how your wingspan (aka arm span) compares to your height.** It’s believed that most people’s wingspan is equivalent to their height, meaning most people have a neutral ape index or, put another way, an ape index ratio of 1.

The ape index is measured because in sports like rock climbing, swimming, boxing, and basketball it’s considered an advantage to have long arms for your height.

## How to Calculate Your Ape Index

**There are two ways to calculate your ape index:** divide your wingspan by your height or subtract your height from your wingspan.

### Method #1: Wingspan to Height Ratio

**How to calculate:** Wingspan / Height

**Example:** Daniel Woods, arguably the greatest boulderer of all time, is 5′ 8″ (68 in) with a 72-inch wingspan. To calculate his ape index as a ratio you divide his wingspan by his height:

72 in / 68 in = 1.06

When expressed as a ratio, Woods has an ape index of 1.06.

**Bottom line:** The typical ape index ratio is 1. A number greater than one means your wingspan is greater than your height, and a number less than one means your height is greater than your wingspan. The advantage of expressing your ape index as a ratio is that it will stay the same regardless of whether you calculate it using inches or centimeters.

### Method #2: Difference Between Wingspan & Height

**How to calculate:** Wingspan – Height

**Example:** Daniel Woods is 5′ 8″ (68 in or 172.7 cm) with a 72-inch (182.9 cm) wingspan. To calculate the difference you simply subtract his height from his wingspan:

*In inches:* 72 in – 68 in = 4 in

*In centimeters:* 182.9 cm – 172.7 cm = 10.2 cm

When expressed as the difference between wingspan and height, Woods has a +4 ape index in inches, or a +10.2 ape index in centimeters.

**Bottom line:** This is the most common way climbers express their ape index. Using this method, the typical ape index is 0. The downside to this method is that, unless it’s 0, your ape index changes depending on whether you’re using inches or centimeters.

## Ape Indices of Famous Climbers

**Note:** If you know the ape index of a famous climber not listed here, put it in the comments below along with the source and we’ll add it to the list!

Compare your ape index with some of the world’s greatest climbers:

Climber | Wingspan | Height | Ape Index 1 (W / H) | Ape Index 2 (W - H) |
---|---|---|---|---|

Kai Lightner | 82 in (208.3 cm) | 75 in (190.5 cm) | 1.09 | +7 in (+17.8 cm) |

Matt Fultz | 77 in (195.6 cm) | 71 in (180.3 cm) | 1.08 | +6 in (+15.2 cm) |

Kai Harada | 70.9 in (180 cm) | 66.5 in (169 cm) | 1.07 | +4.3 in (+11 cm) |

Daniel Woods | 72 in (182.9 cm) | 68 in (172.7 cm) | 1.06 | +4 in (+10.2 cm) |

Dave Graham | 74 in (188 cm) | 70 in (177.8 cm) | 1.06 | +4 in (+10.2 cm) |

Ethan Pringle | 74 in (188 cm) | 70 in (177.8 cm) | 1.06 | +4 in (+10.2 cm) |

Kyra Condie | 68 in (172.7 cm) | 64 in (162.6 cm) | 1.06 | +4 in (+10.2 cm) |

Jan Hojer | 78 in (198 cm) | 74 in (188 cm) | 1.05 | +3.9 in (+10 cm) |

Tomoa Narasaki | 70.9 in (180 cm) | 66.9 in (170 cm) | 1.06 | +3.9 in (+10 cm) |

Sascha Lehmann | 67.7 in (172 cm) | 64.2 in (163 cm) | 1.06 | +3.5 in (+9 cm) |

Paul Robinson | 74 in (188 cm) | 71 in (180.3 cm) | 1.04 | +3 in (+7.6 cm) |

Chris Sharma | 74.5 in (189.2 cm) | 72 in (182.9 cm) | 1.03 | +2.5 in (+6.4 cm) |

Jongwon Chon | 72 in (183 cm) | 69.7 in (177 cm) | 1.03 | +2.4 in (+6 cm) |

Alex Puccio | 65 in (165.1 cm) | 63 in (160 cm) | 1.03 | +2 in (+5.1 cm) |

Emily Harrington | 64 in (162.6 cm) | 62 in (157.5 cm) | 1.03 | +2 in (+5.1 cm) |

Sasha DiGiulian | 64 in (162.6 cm) | 62 in (157.5 cm) | 1.03 | +2 in (+5.1 cm) |

Angy Eiter | 62.2 in (158 cm) | 60.6 in (154 cm) | 1.03 | +1.6 in (+4 cm) |

Stefano Ghisolfi | 68.5 in (174 cm) | 66.9 in (170 cm) | 1.02 | +1.6 in (+4 cm) |

Jonathan Siegrist | 67 in (170.2 cm) | 65.5 in (166.4 cm) | 1.02 | +1.5 in (+3.8 cm) |

Magnus Midtbø | 69.3 in (176 cm) | 68.1 in (173 cm) | 1.02 | +1.2 in (+3 cm) |

Jimmy Webb | 73 in (185.4 cm) | 72 in (182.9 cm) | 1.01 | +1 in (+2.5 cm) |

Nalle Hukkataival | 68.5 in (174 cm) | 68 in (172.7 cm) | 1.01 | +0.5 in (+1.3 cm) |

Adam Ondra | 73.6 in (187 cm) | 73.2 in (186 cm) | 1.01 | +0.4 in (+1 cm) |

Alex Megos | 68.1 in (173 cm) | 68.1 in (173 cm) | 1.00 | +0 in (+0 cm) |

Hazel Findlay | 62 in (157.5 cm) | 62 in (157.5 cm) | 1.00 | +0 in (+0 cm) |

Lynn Hill | 62 in (157.5 cm) | 62 in (157.5 cm) | 1.00 | +0 in (+0 cm) |

Babsi Zangerl | 63 in (160 cm) | 63.8 in (162 cm) | 0.99 | -0.8 in (-2 cm) |

### Notes

- In this video, Kai Lightner says his ape index is +18. Because the video is of him training at Café Kraft in Germany, I’ve interpreted it as 18
*centimeters*, or about 7 inches. A +7-inch ape index is already incredible. +18 inches would be downright ludicrous. - This photo is where I found the reported ape indices of Chris Sharma, Dave Graham, and Lynn Hill. Sharma’s is located near the top right and appears to read “2½.” Graham’s is located near the top left in blue and appears to read “4.” Hill’s is located at the very bottom and appears to read “0.”
- This video is where I found the ape indices of many climbers in this list, including Adam Ondra’s ape index.

### Analysis

The handful of professional climbers in the table above have, on average, a positive ape index. Put simply, they tend to have long arms for their height.

Keep in mind that our sample is quite small. If these averages held true across a larger sample of pro climbers, they would suggest that a positive ape index is an advantage in climbing at a high level.

However, there are a few notable exceptions:

**Lynn Hill,**the first person to free The Nose on El Cap and one of the most famous climbers of all time, has an ape index of 0 (or, an ape index ratio of 1)**Babsi Zangerl,**one of the best trad climbers in the world, has a -0.8 ape index (or, an ape index ratio of 0.99)**Alex Megos,**one of the best sport climbers in the world, has an ape index of 0 (or, an ape index ratio of 1)

And Adam Ondra, arguably the greatest living climber, has a +0.4 inch (+1 cm) ape index. That’s exceedingly unremarkable.

## Is a Positive Ape Index Good for Climbing?

It’s commonly believed that a positive ape index (or an ape index ratio greater than 1) is good for rock climbing.

Indeed, Matt Samet, editor of Climbing Magazine, writes in his book *The Climbing Dictionary*: “A positive ape index, in which your wingspan exceeds your height, is a bonus. … A negative ape index is rarely an asset.”

It’s easy to see why climbers by and large believe this. It seems to make intuitive sense: the longer your arms, the greater your reach advantage relative to other climbers your height.

However, while researching for this article I got curious about whether there was any data backing up this belief. So I decided to do a bit of digging.

Let’s look at the science.

### Do Elite Climbers Have High Ape Indices?

Some studies have measured the ape indices of elite climbers.

A lot of them are plagued by the issue of small sample sizes, but in most of them, on average the climbers have ape index ratios greater than 1. Recall that an ape index ratio of 1 is considered typical.

It seems that on average elite climbers have higher ape indices than the general population.

### Does a High Ape Index Make You a Better Climber?

Though on average elite climbers appear to have high ape indices, when researchers have compared ape index to climbing performance they have often struggled to find a positive correlation.

One study summed it up well:

“[E]lite climbers usually possess an index higher than 1.00 but it was not proven that the ape index correlates with climbing performance.”

### Trainable Factors Are More Predictive of Climbing Ability

Whether or not a high ape index is good for climbing, you can’t change yours. You’re stuck with what you’ve got.

(Well, at least that’s how it would seem. I found a couple suggestions on internet forums and one on the ape index Wikipedia entry that certain exercises can improve your ape index over time. I haven’t found any data to back up this claim.)

Fortunately, things that are under your control have been shown to correlate positively with climbing ability.

As one study put it, “the variables found to explain most variance in sport climbing ability are trainable.”

What are these variables?

They’re things like low body fat percentage and grip strength to body mass ratio — variables you can directly affect through training.

Remember that the next time you find yourself using your -2 ape index as an excuse for why you’re not climbing as hard as you’d like. 😉

Jose Campos

May 2, 2022

Climber = Jose Campos

Wingspan = 74 inches

Height = 69 inches

Ape Index 1 = 1.072

Ape Index 2 = 5+

Hamish

May 21, 2022

I know hes not a climber but Manute Bol (an ex-NBA player) had an ape index of 1.121 or +28cm

He was 231cm tall with a 259cm wingspan. He was the tallest NBA player ever.

Daniel

July 21, 2022

I never had a any desire to rock climb. I’ll be honest because I don’t think I have the nerve lol.

But I always believed my longer arms relative to my height help make up for stature growing up playing basketball, and briefly had an interest in boxing. I’m only 5’6″, but I have a 70.5 wingspan.

Apex 1: 1.068

Apex 2: +4.5

Viking samurai

August 6, 2022

I’m 74″(6’2) and have 82 inch span(6′”10). just a inch or even less tilt and I can scratch my knee cap or similar depth but on outside knee, but I also have 9 inch hands so that helps a bit more each way as well . Also when my freind and I sit down on flat bench together he he noticeable taller air like cpl inches and where same height .. so what’s the index called of ur legs pan if u were in the side splits lol??

Brie

August 7, 2022

I have always liked to climb, everything from jungle gyms, light poles, and trees as a kid, and now, some easy bouldering. So, this site is great for beginners. But I wonder if my measurements would put me at a disadvantage. My height is 68″, my wingspan is 65′, giving me an ape index of 0.96.

peter

August 29, 2022

Height – 72in

Wingspan – 78

Ape Index 1 – 1.083

Ape Index 2 – +6 in (+15.24 cm)

Alex Beale (Author)

September 13, 2022

Wow!